Saturday, April 4, 2009

Thank You Saddam, for Hitting Tel Aviv

I would like to dedicate this post to two great Arabs:
Mo-ha-med, the Egyptian blogger who inspired me with his essay on Egypt’s national schizophrenia towards Israel and the late Saddam, the Sword of the Arabs, who continues to nourish my own personal schizophrenia towards the Jewish State from beyond the grave.

If anything, this post should serve as a reminder to my Israeli readers that despite being the most moderate Palestinian they'll ever meet, my perception of Israel and peace with her is built on a sense of pragmatism - or defeatism as some of my Arab brothers could very fairly argue.

We have been fighting you for over sixty years and we keep losing. Our conflict with you, which has been perpetuated thanks to devastatingly stupid decisions on our part has absorbed every single ounce of our energy, and has come at the expense of our own development. Your society is far more advanced than ours in many ways, and at the risk of appearing as an untermensch who has internalised this sense of inferiority, I enviously proclaim that what you have achieved in the last 60 years is far superior than whatever we have accomplished. Verily I say, we have a lot to learn from you.

So, I advocate a two-state solution, recognition of Israel and trade with her. This, I believe in the name of our benefit rather than yours, for despite being an avowed Judeophile, I don't love Israel or Zionism. That would be unnatural.

In fact, Koss Imko

I curse the yeasty vulvas of the mothers of your Israel and your Zionism, neither of which have anything to offer me.

But in the end, you seem to function in the name of your self-interest, something you cannot be blamed for, whereas we Arabs and our leadership, towards whom my animosity knows no bounds, seem to insist on going against my own personal interest - chiefly in the way they have kept the refugee saga alive, like the camps' Brimos burners with unlimited reserves of Arab incompetence for fuel.

Nevertheless, despite the feelings I have described above, I still do get erections at the thought of Israel's humiliation. I once shared how at 10-years old, I dreamt of replacing Israel with an Arab state.

Mo-Ha-med's post re-ignited that feeling, and somehow reminded me of how I felt that sweet night when Saddam rained Scuds on Tel Aviv. So hold my hand, and let's take a walk down memory lane...

- - - - -

An older Iraqi joke goes as follows:

Upon spotting a fresh, sizeable mound of human faeces on Baghdad's show-piece Abu Nawas street, a mukhabarat gendarme encouraged the gathering crowd to find the filthy beast who committed such a crime so that he could be swiftly punished.

Within minutes, an older women pushes her way through the mob, sticks her finger in the khara and proceeds to taste it.

"It belongs to our Great Leader Saddam, May Allah protect him!" She proclaimed.

"How do you know?" asked a surprised gendarme.

"We have been putting up with his shit for such a long time that we have come to recognize its unique taste"

- - - - -

The astute observer of our region is quick to deduce that in the Missile East, certain leaders tend to enjoy more popularity among the people of neighbouring states than in their own, for the simple reason that the neighbours get the rhetoric minus the khara. Think of the Arab masses' excitement at Ahmadinejad's anti-Israeli shrieks, or more relevantly to my own life, the Palestinian euphoria when Saddam's scuds hit Tel Aviv in 1991.

No, I wasn't even among the rooftop revellers in the territories but I do remember harassing my father who was glued to CNN at the time. "Baba, baba, how many Israelis died?" I kept asking.

At some point he got impatient with me and sent me to the Abu-Hussam, the neighbourhood's Jerusalemite bakkal (grocer), to buy yoghurt.

That's when the corpulent Abu-Hussam, a man far more patient than my father, nestled my chin in his hand, and described to me the tenderest moment in his life, back in October of 1973 he was taking a shower and his brother barged in, arms flailing, shouting that Syria and Egypt had attacked Israel.

He told me to savour the scuds falling on Tel Aviv, for such moments only occur once every couple of decades. I remember the happiness of the day, a joy only comparable with when I discovered the acute pleasure of masturbation. Incidentally, my lubricant of choice at the time was "Samed", West Bank olive oil that was sold to raise funds for the first intifada. The objects of my onanistic practices were Abu-Hussam's chain-smoking, crotch-scratching Datsun-pick-up driving sons, whom I watched and lusted after as I lurked behind our bathroom's window-mounted fan.

In fact, I firmly believe that my frequent masturbatory sessions of the time were the reason the first intifada lasted as long as it did. The reverse corollary of which is that the intifada floundered due to the serious decline in funding due to my dumping of "Samed" in favour of the water jets at the neighbourhood pool.

- - - - -

Many years later, I praise Allah, for I'm fortunate to live in a city were men's behinds have replaced both masturbation and Saddam's scuds as the chief thrills in my life.

But, if you ask me whether or not a serious and effective missile strike on Tel Aviv today would give me a thrill. I would shout, yes, my arms flailing, from the rooftop.

For while I do accept your state as a reality, and while I do want to be your neighbour and apprentice, the idea of you being humbled every once in a while, has me ejaculating in all directions.

I lay my ambivalence before you, in honesty and good faith.

215 comments:

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Nobody said...

I am mourning with you, bro.

:D :D

However don't get disheartened, life may yet show its bright side to you. In the future the tech. progress may strengthen the hands of those who are using terror tactics and fighting asymmetrical warfare.

I would disagree about this:

I curse the yeasty vulvas of the mothers of your Israel and your Zionism, neither of which have anything to offer me.

If you ever get to Tel Aviv, this is by far the best thing that can happen to you. A kind of a free wheeling, liberal and easy going Middle East. You will hardly find anything like this elsewhere. I have a feeling that you will find in this city the East and West fused just in the right proportion for you.

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Nizo said...

"However don't get disheartened, life may yet show its bright side to you. In the future the tech. progress may strengthen the hands of those who are using terror tactics and fighting asymmetrical warfare."

no no... my hopes are crushed ya akhi.. when I was a child, we used to be 20 years behind Israel militarily, now we're 200 years behind you. It's a travesty.

Sigh...

yallah, I'll take whatever pleasure I can get for the moment.

:)

Nizo said...

"If you ever get to Tel Aviv, this is by far the best thing that can happen to you."

What good is Tel Aviv to me if I can only visit it as a tourist? But I agree, again, you have achieved great things bravo for you, you want a brize?

Nobody said...

But maybe there will be a breakthrough in development of portable anti aircraft systems and we will have to send our infantry forward without air cover. Many soldiers may get killed. Or say..mmm .... imagine for a second... I don't even know what to say to comfort you. You really broke my heart with this post.

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Nizo said...

Nobody, out of everyone I think you understand me best..

I just want to cuddle with a Jew now, but since you're so far away I will have source locally.

Nizo said...

you know Nobody,

By now you know that I don't bullshit and that everything I say is from the heart.

If Israel ever gets hit by a nuclear warhead, you will be one of the few people I will rescue and allow to live with me here. While Lisa Goldman will naturally get the spare room, you will get a close second, the storage room in the back of the garage. I will even renovate it for you and install a mini-bar stocked with enough vodka to keep you comfortably inebriated for the rest of your years.

This I offer in the name of intra-Semitic love.

Nobody said...

I assume that at that point we'll be already floating in the air disassembled into molecules. I don't think that finding an accommodation would be such a problem for me and Lisa. Anyway, I am looking forward for my next reincarnation, I've already made a choice.

Pisa said...

Israel and Zionism have nothing to offer you? Really? I guess you don't use a cellphone then...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcHwyW9xOyI

But then you contradict yourself:
"...I enviously proclaim that what you have achieved in the last 60 years is far superior than whatever we have accomplished. Verily I say, we have a lot to learn from you."

No, not a lot. Just one thing: we live for the present and the future, our enemies live for the past.

I have one question for you and your great Arab friend (the one that hasn't been hanged yet, of course):

Why is Israel considered an aggressor and conqueror of palestinian land, while the Hashemite dinasty's (of saudi arabian descent) rule over more than 70% of mandate Palestine is seen as legitimate? Why don't the Palestinians and the arab/muslim world, and whoever's wet dream is the destruction of Israel, have any claims on Jordanian lands (again, more than 70% of Palestine)?

I'll come back for your answers in the morning. It's almost midnight here. Good night.

Nobody said...

Pisa

Stop spraying salt on open wounds of the poor Nizo

Pisa said...

Uhm...maybe I'm overreacting...

I still want answers to my question(s), though.

Nobody said...

Pisa said...

Uhm...maybe I'm overreacting...


Yup. You are. Don't be so serious

:D :D

Mo-ha-med said...

A dedication on Nizo's blog. An aspiring writer cannot hope for better recognition - you humble me, kind sir.

Even if I have to be in the same sentence as SH, the Sword of the Arabs.. :)

Nobody said...

And of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea. Don't forget

Mo-ha-med said...

Pisa -
"...Arab friend (the one that hasn't been hanged yet, of course)"
Dude! Well, jeez, thanks!!

In any event, no need to be so angry. I am quite sure you would react very differently if you knew Nizo a little better - get started on the archive, friend!

And easy on the Hasbara talking points and videos, we've heard them before..

Nizo said...

Ya Habibti ya Pisa the contradiction is the point.

Yes, you live in the future, and you are uebermenschen (except the Arsim dungervolker among you).

What more do you want?

Wallah you are a nation of chutzpanim.. You take the land, the water, the falafel, the hummus but last but not least you want to deny us potential schadenfreude at misfortunes that have yet but may not hit you?

What it is this chutzpah! You want me to take off my underwear too?

G said...

Nizo;

Thanks for the very honest post. A reminder that as much as we would like to think so, you are not, nor can be, one of us.

Admittingly, it makes me more uncomfortable to read about your juvenile pleasure on hearing Tel-Aviv being bombed then it would reading the same words by some rabid Hamas supporter.

Reading your post makes me understand better the burning desire Palestinians have to retain honor, even at the price of screwing themselves over.

The Scuds hitting Tel-Aviv back at the 90's is a good example, Israel made the wise strategic choice back then, damage was minimal while we got funding for the arrow system, additional German submarines, etc' while the Palestinians had to pay for Arafat's support of Saddam.

I am sorry you feel this way, your Judeo-philia is so misleading sometimes it seems you crossed the lines, which of course is not so.

G

Nizo said...

"G said..
I am sorry you feel this way, your Judeo-philia is so misleading sometimes it seems you crossed the lines, which of course is not so."

My Judeophilia is just as sincere as this post. An interest in Judaism, Jewish history, Hebrew, etc.. have had a beneficial effects, but to "cross the line" and become one of you is a surrealistically unrealistic expectation on your part. What you want me to become pro-Israeli?
Why? your nationalism is your business, I understand it, but it's there to serve you, not me.

You need to help me understand the basis of your expectations ya G..

שרוליק said...

I agree with G that it's hard to read Nizo's thoughts, but I appreciate someone who is honest more than a hypocrite.

When feelings are out in the open people can discuss them. I find this more beneficial than deluding ourselves about each other.

Nizo,
Why do you keep referring to Israel in the feminine?

Nizo said...

certain countries are feminine in Arabic, that's where it comes from I suppose.

G said...

Ya Nizo;

I wouldn't define me thinking as expectations exactly. Surly, rationally, you own me and my people nothing. The whole thing is emotional, not based on some reasoning why you should 'cross the lines'.

Do You remember that story about the Palestinian guy who had a Jewish girlfriend and tattooed slogans for Israel on his body? How he was kept in an Israeli hospital for the mentally ill because returning him to PA would have meant his immediate slaughter? Was he rational? Did Israel have anything to offer him except a madhouse?

Judeo-philia such as yours in a Palestinian is very rare, Nizo. It exceeds a simple interest in linguistics or the customs of your enemies. I guess that somewhere in my mind, I filed you as something similar to that guy I mentioned earlier: A kind of Jewish spirit born by mistake in a Palestinian body. It sounds stupid, I know. So reading your post, although I agree is your right, made me sad.

G

Nizo said...

"Do You remember that story about the Palestinian guy who had a Jewish girlfriend and tattooed slogans for Israel on his body? How he was kept in an Israeli hospital for the mentally ill because returning him to PA would have meant his immediate slaughter? Was he rational? Did Israel have anything to offer him except a madhouse?"

Yes, I wrote to the Israeli government about him. Read here.

מכתב גלוי למשרד הבריאות הישראלי בנוגע לפאדי חאפש

http://nizos.blogspot.com/2007/04/blog-post.html

Nizo said...

G,

This reminds me of a conversation I had recently with an (ex-Jewish) atheist friend who for a total of 10 years of knowing him has always thought I was a fellow atheist, but he was surprised that I cannot completely detach myself from my Melkite faith and declare that there's no God.

I will read Hitchens and Dawkins and Darwin and the whole ménagerie and I will ridicule the religious and the creationists etc.. and all of this is real and sincere, but I cannot reach a point of denying the existence of God, for many reasons mostly being nostalgia, emotions, upbringing.

Humans are complex ya G.

Now come here and give me a hug.

Nizo said...

"A kind of Jewish spirit born by mistake in a Palestinian body. It sounds stupid, I know. "

maybe there is a Jewish dybbuk in there, but he has to share the space with others

:)

G said...

*group hug* :)

Nizo;
I understand you completely. Like you, intellectualism aside, I cannot deny who and what I am. "The son of a frog must also be a frog", a Japanese proverb wisely states.

Humans are indeed complex, and so is reality, painted with endless shades of gray.
Unfortunately, dear Nizo, those who prefer to view reality using only black and white rule the roost....

and so where does it leave us?

G

Savtadotty said...

I would like to dedicate this comment to one great Arab: you.

Nizo, you have my blessing not to love Israel. It breaks my heart that the only real competition we Israelis have with Palestinians who still live in the Missile East is for the Biggest Victim Award. We should both be able to do better than that.

Nizo said...

G,

I have to share something with you.. Last week, I went to see that Champagne Spy movie about the Mossad agent in Egypt in the 60's.. with a beloved Jewish friend and reader of this blog.

At some point, they showed Eli Cohen's photo when he was hung in Syria. The room, filled to the brim with Jews and Israelis gasped and you could feel the sadness in the air.

I, however, felt guilty for not reacting, and had a little cognitive battle within myself.

"Why couldn't I gasp, just out of politeness to these Jews"

But reason won over.

Why should I gasp, at the death of an Israeli spy who sent information that helped Israel conquer the Golan. To have gasped would have been hypocritical. Why shed tears for a Mossad agent who helped his country win the 6-day war?

And so I maintained silence, out of respect.. and naturally I understand the Jews' reaction to the killing of their (spy) son.

But that's as far as I can go ya akhi.. In my letter I have described myself as "חבר לעמכם", and I am, but I remain friend from the other "camp". I can't be from your camp.

Anonymous said...

kus umak ya manyak. walak ya kalb mabtistahi 3ala damak ya wysich!? kha'en w 3ameel w manyak kulo ma ba3id

tfu! tfu alayk

G said...

Nizo;

It's interesting you bring up Eli Cohen. Of course I am only guessing, but I believe he probably had conflicting feelings about his identity too. No one could have infiltrated the other side as he did without really integrating, appreciating and enjoying the culture and having genuine friends, which he probably cared for while betraying their trust and confidence.

Surviving is such a dirty business sometimes...but we all have to do it.

To be a good spy, you probably would have had to be able to genuinely gasp. :)

G

G said...

Wow!

Even I could understand those cursings...not too imagenative though

Anonymous said...

Great and sad post, Nizo.
Helen

karen said...

Why would anyone expect you to have a deeper connection with Jews than your own people? I don't have that expectation. It wouldn't be normal. But likewise, Arabs should not expect us to feel your pain the same way you do when your people are suffering. No one likes to see people suffer (usually), but people the world over are affected more deeply when their own people are hurting as opposed to when those whom they believe are causing their "hurting" are suffering. Jews caused your pain, so the Jews should suffer (the scuds). Many Arabs are responsible for Jewish suffering since 1948, so when an Israeli sniper takes an a-hole out, or bombs a potential nuclear plant etc., do you think I feel bad?? No, I am happy too :-)
But I am not happy when supposedly innocent civilians are killed because they are used by their own people as human shields. Were you happy when buses of innocent Israelis were blown up by suicide bombers? I could see you being indifferent, but were you happy? If you were, you are not the Nizo that I thought you were.

Howie said...

Nizo...

I down wit it...I think it is an honest and sincere post....But you see...just reading between the lines a tiny bit tells me something important...you are "against" us, but you don't hate us. And you do note yourself as a Judanphile, which demonstrates your ambivalence. But it is the hatred and arrogance that has screwed the Arabs and the Palestinians over and over again.

I am not crazy about Arabs in general(Muslim can make me nervous, but I have very good Sudanese, Lebanese and Iranian pals, two of which don't like Arabs either)...and with good reason...I have had 80% negative experiences with them since I was 18 years old. But I don't hate a group of people or wish them dead...just want them to die if they have intent to kill me and those I love...Otherwise...sure have Hebron and Jericho...just be nice. It is such a cliche but do you have any idea how much we could rip off tourists, the liberal Left etc. if we put our arms around each other and just said we need a few billion per week to keep getting along together? Oy...what a terrible waste...so sad.

You want to see Israel humiliated? That is EASY...just leave us alone! We will fuck each other like two 18 year old newlyweds on honeymoon...are you kidding. Israel humbled? Shit man...we have been humbled as a people...or is that beople...for centuries and though many of us are cocky...we remain a little dot of burning sand on the map...

But as I have stated before...I honor you as an observer and an honest reporter...Oh...a terrorist did hack two children with an axe the other day if that is any consolation...I know it is for some...I am pretty sure it is not for you.

Hey...did I ever tell you about what I told my doctor before one prostate exam...

He asked me..."does this make you uncomfortable?"

I said, "Well..no...at least not as long as I only feel one hand on my shoulder".

He countered with "well...you will feel two fingers"

I asked him why..

His reply

"Second opinion"

But overall...tribes can of suck...we have to belong to one...but let's face it...it is mostly the accident of birth that sets our political perspective more than just about anything else.

Howie said...

Anonymous...

Oh...and thanks for the lesson in Arabic...I don't know too much...but I did get something about my mother's privates and a crazy something and a dog...

So you have a thing about pussies and puppies?

How nice...and all our mothers and send you love

Anonymous said...

Israel is a racist, fascist, Nazi state ya Nizo, and its getting weaker by the day. Dont kid yourself about the Arabs being behind militarily. The usurping Zionist entity is on the verge of collapse. Zionism wont live to a hundred. Nuclear weapons cant be dropped on occupied Ramle, Haifa, Akka, or Lydd. This little statelet will wither away much sooner than you think and we will liberate all of Palestine from the river to the sea.

But that should make no difference to you because a manyak remains a manyak no matter what happens in palestine.

nizo bado air yahoodi fi teezo

lol

Nizo said...

I was thinking of the last war in 2006 when Hizbullah rained rockets on the Galilee.. I remember being indifferent when a rocket hit a group of soldiers.. I suppose it's because Nassrallah and his lice-infested beard is worse in my eyes than Israel. If anything Israel was there and so were the secular leaderships or old order when I was growing up, while Hizb and co. are relatively recent phenomena, they're sort of foreign to my consciousness.

Nizo said...

"nizo bado air yahoodi fi teezo "

teezi 3am bitzaghrit.. leleleleleleleee

:0)

Howie said...

G

Humans are indeed complex, and so is reality, painted with endless shades of gray.

Yup...and this is the last blog for folks that like thoughts and reality in neat packages.

Yours

Elton

Nizo said...

Karen said:
"Were you happy when buses of innocent Israelis were blown up by suicide bombers? I could see you being indifferent, but were you happy?"

No, never was, but my first gut reaction was how this hurt our image and prospects of moving forward with statehood.. and how it destroyed the left. I don't support bombing buses, and the human anti-terrorism sentiment comes second, not first.

Anonymous said...

Fuck you Pseudostinian fag.

YOUR PROPHET MOHAMMED SUCKS COCK

|3run0 said...

Great post Nizo!

Anon: "This little statelet will wither away much sooner than you think and we will liberate all of Palestine from the river to the sea."

Not if the Palestinians have put their trust on imbeciles like yourself anon. As, incidentally, they have done repeatedly in the past. Which is a point Nizo makes repeatedly, but you fail spectacularly to get.

You know anon, if Israel got nuked tomorrow and became a big uninhabitable glass bowl from the Galilee to the Negev, you would be drooling with joy. Palestine is just an afterthought.

There is more to Nizo than pragmatism; there is an extra something that has been sorely lacking in the Palestinian national movement and assorted hangers-on, and the consequences have been disastrous. But this is another point I expect you to fail spectacularly to grasp.

|3run0 said...

...and here comes a second anon to prove that stupidity bordering on self-parody is not a monopoly on either side.

|3run0 said...

*of* either side.

karen said...

So, how do you think I felt when Baruch Goldstein murdered the worshippers in the mosque? I also worried what people would think of us. Every time Israel takes military action I have the same worry. It is also a primary concern.

karen said...

And as if nuking Israel would solve the problem. The Palestinians would be dead too. And so would a lot of other neighbours. And Israel would be uninhabitable. But if you have the attitude that if we can't have it, no one else should either, than nuking Israel and killing Jews and Arabs would make you happy anon.

Anonymous said...

Nizo,

I discovered your blog through the Palestine blog aggregator and I'm submitting a request that they remove it for inappropriate content.

I'm not talking about the pictures of naked men, but something much worse. I find revolting the way you idolize a rogue nation that has brought nothing but death and destruction. Well at least you have the intellectual honesty to call yourself a defeatist because you are one. You don't have an iota of pride, praising Israel for achievements that were made at the expense of a whole people. Your people. Or at least the people that you claim to belong to.

"Verily" tell me, what's so advanced about a society of genocidal killers? What's so admirable about a country that appropriates land and destroys homes for lacking permits that are impossible to get to start with. These are the people you want to emulate?

Instead of telling your readers that you're against bus bombings you should tell them that you're against the massacre that Israel committed in Gaza. What the bus bombings did was a fraction of the attack on a captive civilian population.

Tell us why your Majesty is silent over Israeli crimes while you attack and ridicule the Arabs at every opportunity to the applause of the Israelis.

What a waste of a blog and of a Palestinian.

Mo-ha-med said...

I am re-reading the post, more slowly, thinking about the ambiguity.. it is an amazing piece of writing, an incredible exercise in soul-baring. The intensity of the debate is proof enough.
My experience is nowhere near extreme - being less erudite and less 'Palestinophile' than you are - but I understand you perfectly.

I am a little surprised - befuddled is more accurate - that some readers express surprise or disappointment that Nizo hasn't, to quote one, "crossed the line". Why would that be even an assumption? For Nizo, or for any Palestinian for that matter?

But these reactions show that this was indeed a timely post.

Re: the discussion on sympathy for the other's victims - it is complex, but it is also the measure our own civilisation. (Karen, this is an answer to your question, if I may).
Cheering the demise of your enemy isn't the same as gloating on the death of a random person.

It becomes muddled when you manage to convince yourself that those random innocents are not, that they are indeed your enemies and that they deserved it: see most Israeli public opinion on the latest Gaza war. "They voted for them, they deserve the consequences of their choice. They harbour terrorists. Yada yada.".

The converse justification would be "they deserved to blow up in their cafe, they are all reserve soldiers. Tthey voted for (sitting prime minister). They chose to emigrate to this country. Yada yada".

On a side note - I find amusing that the first Anon uses Hebrew transliteration for his insults in Arabic.. "ch" for خ rather than the more customary "kh" is highly unusual.

Ellie said...

I learned a lot from this post. I didn't know you were a top. I'm surprised I didn't figure that out earlier.

Anonymous said...

Israel has no right to exist and it never did, not in Palestine. The Nazis that came from Eastern Europe have a choice, they can either pack their bags or did their graves, but there will never be an Israel living in peace on MY land. Never.

The Zionazi state will not live to see a hundred. This Nizo character, if he's not some fraud posing as a Palestinian, is a sick faggot.

Ill tell you what you Zionazis. Get the hell out of Palestine and you can take the Palestinian faggots with you.

This place is a joke.

anne said...

anonymous above me, you are a vile amoeba and i don't see what the use is of flaunting your ignorance like that. i bet you get an erection from the word "zionazi." you are so cliche.

Howie said...

Anne...

"i bet you get an erection from the word "zionazi."

I bet he can't get an erection and thus thus we are subjected to his sublimated anger.

Howie said...

Anon


hehehehehe.... erection

Nobody said...

I see this post as your second attempt to get rid of what you call cheerleaders. The first one was addressed to the Western "arm-chair cheerleaders". This one was aimed at your personal cheerleaders from the right wing Zionist camp. I think that none of the two was particularly successful. On the bright side I would notice that you seem to have no cheerleaders on the Palestinian side.

Nobody said...

Anonymous said...

Nizo,

I discovered your blog through the Palestine blog aggregator and I'm submitting a request that they remove it for inappropriate content.


How come you are still there? I am in shock !!!

:D :D

Nobody said...

you means your blog

Anonymous said...

anne,

I dont mean it as a cliche. I mean it literally. Zionism is a form of fascism. That's the truth and everybody knows it.

I know what gives you guys an erection, its the site of dead Palestinian babies that your Nintendo pilots bomb from the skys because you are too afraid to come in and face Palestinian freedom fighters.

The only Palestinian who supports you is a faggot. That says it all.

I also stumbled on to this blog by accident because it was part of a Palestinian blog directory. It should be removed immediately. This manyak is from another world.

We have always had a few willing collaborators and traitors, like Abbas and Dahlan today, and I know we have some faggots because every society does, but I have never run across an open collaborationist faggot. This is new.

When the Russians, Germans, Latvians, Estonians, Hungarians, Poles, and other East European Nazis go back home they can take this manyak with them.

Walak ya Nizo ili siteen alf air fi teezo, ahlak bi3irfu inak manyak? ru7 intak ya khawal !

Nobody said...

I know what gives you guys an erection, its the site of dead Palestinian babies that your Nintendo pilots bomb from the skys because you are too afraid to come in and face Palestinian freedom fighters.

Where did I hear that one about Nintendo pilots before? Oh !!! Shalom Zionism is racism aka Arab advocate!!! Still busy copy pasting your two and half comments?

Anne

You should not think that our warrior of deserts is somewhere around or something. The freedom fighter is living in the US where he is supporting the struggle for liberation of Palestine by burdening American welfare system.

Nobody said...

Zionism is racism

Please tell anne about names and that little notepad in which you write them down. It's your best !!!

:D :D

Pisa said...

Mo

"And easy on the Hasbara talking points and videos, we've heard them before.."

That wasn't hasbara. That video was meant to hurt Nizo by targeting his soft spot - how advanced Israel is compared to his own people. That was a stupid knee-jerk reaction to the hate I felt trickling from his post.

Nizo

Frankly, your post scared me. It's something between the lines. I can't explain it in a few words, and the comment section is not the right place for a lengthy analysis.

Nizo and Mo

I asked you a question, and I want an answer. I really want you to think about it, and be honest about it. However, I'll rephrase my question to make my point clear:

Why is it OK to have a foreign rule over Palestinian land east of the Jordan river, but it's wrong to have a foreign rule over Palestinian land west of the Jordan river?

Judging by the comments so far, Nizo, you're likely to be shot by both sides!

Abu Sa'ar said...

Nizo -

You know Howie is right. If you want to humble us, just make sure there's peace for a decade or so. Republic of Tel Aviv will fight the Kingdom of Yehuda before we'll have a 10-years-old who doesn't know how to duck for cover. Or it could be a religious thing or something. Hell, give it two generations of peace and we'll have Israeli eco-terrorists blowing plants in Haifa :)

NB - we're actually unlikely to be vaporized. A lingering, excruciating death from radiation burns and sickness is much more probable. Don't overestimate the precision of Fajrs and Shahabs :)

Mo -

Israeli opinion in op. Cast Lead can be summed up as "better them than us". Golda's lament holds true yet.

Anonymous said...

" Nizo said...
I was thinking of the last war in 2006 when Hizbullah rained rockets on the Galilee.. I remember being indifferent when a rocket hit a group of soldiers.. I suppose it's because Nassrallah and his lice-infested beard is worse in my eyes than Israel."


You fucking collaborator. I hope you burn in hell you evil homo and you take all your friends with you. Nassrallah's beard is worth more than you and your whole family ya kalb.

Pisa said...

Mo

"Pisa -
"...Arab friend (the one that hasn't been hanged yet, of course)"
Dude! Well, jeez, thanks!!"

You're welcome ;-)

"In any event, no need to be so angry. I am quite sure you would react very differently if you knew Nizo a little better - get started on the archive, friend!"

As I said, I was more scared than angry. And my reaction was largely due to the fact that I know Nizo better than that - I've browsed through the archive. People like Nizo (and yourself, but don't take that as a compliment - yet!) are hard to find. I don't like loosing friends to stupid pride and prejudice (not even my own pride and prejudice...).

Anonymous said...

"I discovered the acute pleasure of masturbation. Incidentally, my lubricant of choice at the time was "Samed", West Bank olive oil that was sold to raise funds for the first intifada. "

Above you desecrate the blood of children who died in the intifada with your perversions.

Your blog makes me vomit.

Aviv said...

Nizo, just wanted to add one more vote of confidence. Thanks again for your candor. You may be from the other camp, but you're a true friend.

Anonymous said...

Nizo Ya Kalb,

When you insult Nassrallah you show that you're a collaborating maggot like Abu Mazen, Karzai, Maliki and all the other faggots who Israel and USA like to call "moderates" because they're too busy sucking Jewish cock to put up a fight.

Alf zob fi teezak ya khawal ya wissikh, koss omak 3ala okhtak yabnel sharmoota..wa7ed kalb ibn kalb

Abu Sa'ar said...

Nizo, where did all these Angry Arabs come from? SM's blog?

Or did they google "intifada masturbation zionists"? :)

Nobody said...

I think I am going to the Palestine blogs aggregator to join all these anons in their demand to remove you from their list. I now don't mind Sandmonkey linking here every single day.

Nobody said...

Abu Sa'ar said...

Nizo, where did all these Angry Arabs come from? SM's blog?


No. This from the Shaab al Jabareen blogs aggregator

Anonymous said...

"Or did they google "intifada masturbation zionists"? :)"


Shut the fuck up and mind your business.

Abu Sa'ar said...

NB -

Except for the 4:12 AM Anon, who obviously did google "intifada masturbation zionists".

I just knew it! :)

Malcolm X said...

No, I was googling "Israel kills Palestinian woman and children and then make t-shirts about it"

Nizo the khawal and your Israeli friends read what Malcolm X once wrote.


"Did the Zionists have the legal or moral right to invade Arab Palestine, uproot its Arab citizens from their homes and seize all Arab property for themselves just based on the "religious" claim that their forefathers lived there thousands of years ago? Only a thousand years ago the Moors lived in Spain. Would this give the Moors of today the legal and moral right to invade the Iberian Peninsula, drive out its Spanish citizens, and then set up a new Moroccan nation ... where Spain used to be, as the European zionists have done to our Arab brothers and sisters in Palestine?...

In short the Zionist argument to justify Israel's present occupation of Arab Palestine has no intelligent or legal basis in history ... not even in their own religion. Where is their Messiah?"

Nobody said...

:D

Though from my experience with these people, it will be funny only during the first one hundred comments. Then you will get bored and irritated by having to scroll for ages through this shit. Zionism is racism is a particularly boring type of idiot. After you read his first ten comments you will be perfectly capable of replace him and writing all of his comments yourself.

Nobody said...

Rakun

this one was for you

Abu Sa'ar said...

NB -

I know, answering these people is like feeding me tasty food: a surefire way to be bothered in the near future :)

Andrey said...

Only a thousand years ago the Moors lived in Spain. Would this give the Moors of today the legal and moral right to invade the Iberian Peninsula

It's "the mooks", bubble boy!

Anonymous said...

Hi Anon 20, you're too harsh. "silent over Israeli crimes while you attack and ridicule the Arabs at every opportunity to the applause of the Israelis." ...
That used to make me angry as well, anon. But that's just how he thinks.
Nizo have a tendencey to only blame the palestinians leadership, and he's a cynic. Also, he want to be liked by his Israeli audience. If you want to read someone less cynical, but also less witty, read "raising yousuf", a blog by a palestinian journalist.

"What's so admirable about a country that appropriates land and destroys homes"
Anon, I agree, the occupation is anything but admirable. But they did create a democracy and it's sitll there.Also, there is a lot of technical innovations, and cultural achievements in the Israeli society. This is problably what he admires, I don't think he admires their brutality.
Also, I don't see why he shouldn't be against the bus bombings. It's immoral to blow up civilians.
(and like he said, bad for the palestinians) I don't see why one can't be against both terrorism and the assault on Gaza at the same time.

Pisa, here's one answer: the palestinians in Jordan carries jordanian citizenship. They're not occupied. The palestinians in the west bank are occupied by your people, who hasn't given them Israeli citizenship. That's the difference.

Helen

Nobody said...

That used to make me angry as well, anon. But that's just how he thinks.
Nizo have a tendencey to only blame the palestinians leadership, and he's a cynic. Also, he want to be liked by his Israeli audience. If you want to read someone less cynical, but also less witty, read "raising yousuf", a blog by a palestinian journalist.


You know, Helen

You are lucky that blogs are not something physical located at the top of a 10-story building. Otherwise, you would have found yourself already flying on the way down together with humanism, moral clarities and all your other spiritual paraphernalia

Howie said...

hehehehe... masturbate

Nizo said...

Anonymice,

I wake up this morning to see all of this dreck, all these insults.. You deserve to be taken to the maslakh the whole lot of you and replaced by goats.

As for my blog being silent on Zio-Nazi atrocities, it's ok, for every post where I'm silent, a thousand posts elsewhere aren't. This is not the speciality of my blog, you don't go to a sushi restaurant to order pizza. You want photos of babies with their heads blown off, go to Sabbah, Raising Yussef, Angry Arab etc...

My blog is mostly built on personal perception and introspection. In fact, when I'm critical I'm not always injecting something new to this already tired debate. If you watch the debates on Al-Jazeera you will hear all the things I say here and more. The only difference is that I frame things in a vulgar way, because I have the libido of submarine full of horny, deprived sailors.

But contrary to my personal life where I'm constantly packing fudge, the things I write here are fudge-free. It's from the heart, which is what disappointed some of my Jewish/Israeli readership with this post.

But I would rather disappoint them than mislead them. They're big boys and girls and can handle a discussion, unlike you, the several anonymice who bring nothing new here but tired dratt 3al balatt (farts on concrete), rhetoric we have heard for the past 100 years.

Nizo said...

And for the record, I write a lot about my childhood, and there are several things I can't shake off no matter how hard I try.

As a kid, three things impressed me, the Egyptian videos showing SAMs hitting Israeli jets, the PLO army parading in Beirut and last but not least Saddam himself. All of these things are intertwined with sexual fantasies.

On Saddam, at the end of the Iran-Iraq war my father proclaimed:

"The Arabs should kiss Saddam's testicles, had it not been for his army we would have been eaten alive by the Iranians."

But now that Saddam is gone, whose balls shall we kiss?

This leaves me in a massive mental and emotional quandary.

G said...

Nizo;

At the risk of being provocative I cannot help but wonder whether the ambivalence you and Mo-Ha-Med described is what motivated Palestinians working/living in Israel for years to one day, without warning, stab their Jewish employer/coworkers or run over a passersby with a tractor. It seems to me the anger comes from the same source, and that means we could never truly trust each other, even if we did agree on a peace agreement, because a peace agreement leave all this need for getting the upper hand unfulfilled, and leave me constantly watching my back.

And if we are being honest today, I admit I don’t fancy the prospects of that one bit.
G

Anonymous said...

Nizo, be fair You may not like raising yusuf, but you don't really see pictures of dead babies on raising yousuf, only her own adorable kids.
Nobody, I know you find my posts boring, but just like anon could read other blogs, you could concentrate more on folks you like better like Ellie, Pisa, Abu Saar .. start reading from the bottom. If it's signed "Helen" or "Helen in London", simply skip the rest :)
Helen

Anonymous said...

G, that's why a binational state would never work....People that can't trust each other shouldn't live together...
Helen

Nizo said...

"It seems to me the anger comes from the same source"

The anger does come from the same source, and no, I don't think that open borders is something even viable for Israel in the near future. After a settlement, and separation, it may take 100 years of deprogramming via education, media etc.. to change the mindset.. And that's if there is a settlement, but I don't think there will be one any time soon.

You know G, I have friends in the Greek Orthodox church here, and I sometimes go to the masses, dinners, etc... Many of these people including the priests, are descendants of Greeks from Anatolia (Turkey), and their ancestors had a tough start in Greece proper when the population exchange took place. You would be surprised but some of these people still talk about the Hagia Sophia church in Istanbul as if it was conquered yesterday! not back in 1453. But the yearnings are romantic, with no teeth. The Greeks and the Turks both have their entities and will not risk a war over an old Church.

Things between us are different, the wounds are fresher.

Nizo said...

"Nizo, be fair You may not like raising yusuf, but you don't really see pictures of dead babies on raising yousuf, only her own adorable kids."

You're right, no dead babies, but her editorial line is the same as that of Sabbah and the Angry Arab. In Arabic we say "Hassan akho l-Hussain".. Hassan is the brother of Hussain .. ie. no difference.

Abu Sa'ar said...

"But now that Saddam is gone, whose balls shall we kiss?"

By the same logic, General David Howell Petraeus' :)

Nizo said...

Abu,
No no, not infidel balls, we need Arab balls, big, brown, low-hangers.. like mine.. I'm looking for an excuse to post a picture of mine, but I don't want Blogger to force me to put a disclaimer again.

Anonymous said...

Yes, raising yousuf is political blog.... if you want a strong leader,how about Marwan Barghouti? He doesn't seem like a nice person, but he does have a lot of clout among people.
Helen

Abu Sa'ar said...

Nizo -

LOL, your verbal gymnastics never fail to amuse this Raccoon... put it on Youtube and disguise as Pokemon :)

Uhm. About Arab balls... I really hope Drima gets into politics. While African and not exactly Arab, the man's got excellent potential.

Abu Sa'ar said...

The picture, not the gymnastics.

Nobody said...

Nobody, I know you find my posts boring

Boring is a compliment for you, Helen. Boring is what you are doing now - asking pointless questions just for the sake to ask something.

Nobody said...

forcedeth.c: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.41

Israelis should say thank you to Arabs that the Arabs are the way they are. Otherwise Israelis would have destroyed their country by their own hands with open borders and others lunacies long ago.

Nobody said...

The quote was meant to be this:

The anger does come from the same source, and no, I don't think that open borders is something even viable for Israel in the near future. After a settlement, and separation, it may take 100 years of deprogramming via education, media etc.. to change the mindset.. And that's if there is a settlement, but I don't think there will be one any time soon.

Anonymous said...

"Boring is a compliment for you, Helen. Boring is what you are doing now - " : D :D Perhaps I should be a negotiator for the palestinians, infidel or not. The weaker ones in the Israeli team would fall asleep after about two of pointless questions, the stronger ones would agree to most things simply to be able to stay awake....
In fact, I do think boring politicians are needed in the me.
Helen

Howie said...

hehehehe...Saddam's balls

Nobody said...

Anonymous said...

"Boring is a compliment for you, Helen. Boring is what you are doing now - " : D :D Perhaps I should be a negotiator for the palestinians, infidel or not.


Your skills will be in great demand, Helen, and soon. Don't worry about it. Though not by us. I don't know if you realize it or not but all these anons are not posting from Ramallah or the Gaza city, but from the US and Canada and elsewhere in the West. They are your neighbors, not ours.

Nobody said...

Though you can still benefit tremendously by establishing a healthy habit of quoting other people before providing your own comments on their stuff. This will help you ... mmm... to reduce chances for misunderstanding something...

Anonymous said...

You're sweeet when you're trying to scare me, hon. I already know you think that Europe is doomed because of all the "shitty arabs" as you call them... We been over this before, and I think I've told you I've got no problem with most muslims, only a tiny islamist minority. Inded, I'd rather have a muslim for a neighbour any day than a Israeli settler... But this reminds me: it's best to talk about the weather with you...I hope the westher in Israel is nice.
I'll go out and enjoy the last hours of the weekend.
Helen

Ellie said...

Nizo,
By the way, do you think Israeli Arabs feel the same way as you? I guess they were not subjected to the same propaganda, but still...If you were Israeli, do you think you would support the Lieberman plan?

I also like how these Western progressives think someone like Lieberman should be shunned yet cannot wait to welcome Marwan Barghouti with open arms.

This is precisely the reason we think these people are either stupid, naive or outright Jew haters (apologies to Nobody for playing the victimization card once again).

Ellie said...

I thought Western progressives disliked generalizations.

Nobody said...

Helen

You should use quotes, I told you. I've never said that Europe is doomed because of the Arabs. You have some scary deficiency in understanding bordering on some kind of dyslexia. I've never said anything like this. Some conflict in Europe is inevitable as far as I can see and it will be probably accompanied by more terror. And if it comes to this I have no illusion as to how much stamina the new generation of Europeans have. However this is not what will bring Europe's downfall.

Anonymous said...

Ellie, do you ever speak to people directly, or do you always adress them indirectly? I've no problem with someone like you seeing me as a stupid, naive jew hater. If that makes you happy, feel free....But to say that I, or people like me "cannot wait to welcome Marwan Barghouti with open arms" is as you americans say, horseshit.

BS, Nobody. I understand quite well. Europe is doomed because of the Degeneracy western society, and arab and muslim immigrants will help to pull us down, and we have no stamina because we're degenerates, and it's all our fault since we don't realize this. I think I get the general idea, but feel free to add something.
Helen

Nobody said...

Helen

You'd better stop trying because you seem to be absolutely hopeless. Actually on that thread of the letter to Haniyeh where I said it there is a whole comment of mine to you about this doomed Europe thing and the words Arab/Muslim don't appear there even once. You really like our Israeli Arab conflict, don't you? You are literally living and breathing it.

Anonymous said...

Nizo,

You are sick, really sick. Why not get therapy or psychiatric care for your condition? And do your prents know you're a manyak?

Ellie said...

Nizo,

Is it the same angry Arab posting over and over again or is there some kind of variety?

Aviv said...

If we're talking about therapy, I think a few sessions with Wafa Sultan is exactly what the doctor ordered for Arab society.

Anonymous said...

Nobody, I can't remeber everything you write me, can I? However, you know you've written angry comments about muslims, a lot of comments about them having us, thery're a threat,etc. But if I'm too slow for you, try and tell Ellie your theories about Europe's future. She'll have no trouble understanding you.
You're quite right that I'm interested in the Arab Israeli conflct. However, you should notice that I've stopped trying to influence you to be a left winger, so you 've nothing to complain about,really....Good night
Helen

Nobody said...

Nobody, I can't remeber everything you write me, can I? However, you know you've written angry comments about muslims, a lot of comments about them having us, thery're a threat,etc. But if I'm too slow for you, try and tell Ellie your theories about Europe's future. She'll have no trouble understanding you.

Helen

Poor memory has never been an excuse for plain stupidity. However, in you case plain stupidity is only part of the explanation for your never ending failure to understand anything. And on this I am ready to elaborate, if you are interested. Not to Ellie, to you.

somebody said...

while we're in wishful thinking mode, I'd like to propose that Egypt is partitioned from Palestine and Israel permanently. A nice sand dune or water future would do, where you guys can frolick together or engage in your favorite past time.

somebody said...

feature*

Howie said...

hehhehehe balls

Howie said...

Nizo...

Well...looks like a good day all around for terrorists...not only did they clean out quite a few short brown people in Bakistan...but CNN just did a future on the murder...excuse me...punishment, excuse me...liberation of 6 gay men in Iraq...

Pretty interesting and rather disturbing story...you might be able to pick it up off their website...I just saw minutes ago.

Well...at least if Hamas takes over...we know freedom from genocide for all Palestinians will be won.

Nizo said...

It boggles the mind that out of all my posts where I bash the Arabs, they get mostly offended at this one.

If anyone has a psychological analysis on the situation don't hold your peace..

Furthermore, all the presumably Anonymice seem to be coming from locations in Israel..

Howie said...

Nizo...

Analysis of why people are mad at you on this one?

That is easy dear...You don't march in stride like a freaking lemming going over a cliff...you break with the company line, won't shout slogans and cliches, thing for yourself, critique the heroes etc. etc. ...and you are a queer to boot.

I think Anonymous also is sublimating strong homosexual feelings and projecting his self-loathing on to you.

Quite simple...now did Dr. Liza make you feel better?

Got take a warm bath and listen to the show tunes I sent you last week..

There there...that's the boy.

Howie said...

Nizo...

And remember...bashing Arabs about racism, cruelty to women, oppression, dictatorships, backwardness, torture, greed, terrorism, lustful killing of each other etc. will not get you killed nearly as quickly as conceding WE make better falafel.

You can bash Arabs and Muslims but you are not allowed to concede a point to us Nazi's.

At least...that is how Dr. Liza sees it.

Sophia said...

First you say, "Verily I say, we have a lot to learn from you."

Then you say, "I curse the yeasty vulvas of the mothers of your Israel and your Zionism, neither of which have anything to offer me."

Contradiction?

Sophia said...

Sorry, I didn't read the comments that already address this contradiction. Don't post, it doesn't add anything to the conversation.

Sophia said...

I see the comments post automatically. In any case...

....how you feel about Israelis dying in bus attacks is how I felt about Palestinians dying in Gaza. The war IMO was a futile exercise in sabre-rattling that didn't accomplish one tactical or strategic goal. It was horrible for Israel's image. Did I feel sorry for the innocent civilians who were killed? Yes, but so what? It's bullshit. My saying that I felt sorry for them is meaningless. I didn't do anything for them. Mostly I felt sorry that they died in a useless war. I didn't lose any sleep over them. That's what this conflict has done to me. I'm pretty numb at this point.

Non-Defeatist Arab said...

Nizo,

I don't think I could find an insult that hasn't been used on you, but I will say this:

The fact that you want to "submit" to Israel is an example of your weak character.

If you think you endear yourself to Arabs by praising Saddam you're mistaken. Saddam, like you, was a CIA agent and a Western Imperialistic Implant in the Middle East. This would explain why you like him so much.

I hope you meet the same fate.

Non-Defeatist Arab said...

Sophia,

The difference between the buses and Gaza is that one was an act of resistance by a people who don't have tanks and F-16s at their disposal. The Gaza attack on the other hand is an act of genocide. The whole world views it as such, except of course Israel and the AIPAC-controlled US.

To compare the two is plainly offensive.

Karen said...

It must be scary to be an Arab and not "tow the party line". I mean, I really don't like our traitor Noam Chomsky or local Jews who think like him, but I would never think to waste my time, other than to shake my head in disbelief, stalking them. And I think most Jews are like me. It's much harder to be an Arab and have your own ideas and opinions.

I feel sorry for you Nizo. You are able to think outside of the box and look at the grief it gets you. You are funny, charming, (sometimes disgusting) and Palestinian. You made me rethink some of my beliefs. Keep blogging! I like reading what YOU have to say, even if I have to scroll past some of your boring and/or vulgar commentators.

Mo-ha-med said...

Nazanizo,
I think the Anoymice are just angry that you discontinued your consumption of Samed.
And that you've achieved a level of pragmatism that is so completely at odds with their one-track vision of the world that it scares them. Frankly, I can understand that.

Howie - I enjoyed your articulate comments of the "hehehehe balls" type - but I have to draw the line here, because - hell no. WE make better falafel. You guys are effing amateurs.
(unleash hell..:).

Non-Defeatist Arab,
I'll answer you because, while still an Anymouse, you seem to have a few grey cells more than the others.

Know however that wishing death to someone is generally considered to be impolite - and shows you as a jackass.

There actually is a valid comparison aspect - several, actually - between the buses blowing up and the offensive on Gaza. First, innocents die.
Second, it's a tactical mistake.
Third, it has failed to advance any strategic advantages and
Four, the perpetrators haven't learned these lessons yet and keep repeating the same mistakes.

The rest of your points - genocide, resistance, self defense, etc etc, falls under the category of, as someone once wrote on my blog - 'truth is in the eye of the beholder'.
Your truth isn't Sophia's, and that's a fact you'll have to live with.
I honestly invite you to sit back and enjoy this thread because you're unlikely to read a conversation this remarkable ever again.

Howie said...

NAB...

I think almost everything you said is untrue and mostly sloganisms that most folks like you don't take the effort to analyze.

Mo...is much more thoughtful, though I disagree with most of his points.

In terms of truth being in the eye of the beholder...no...that statement once again invites what I think is the viliest of arguments that come from your side...the argument of moral relativism...One dead baby is just the same as another dead baby...and no...that is utterly and completely untrue.

But I know where this debate goes and I am not much in the mood for it...but I will say this...

Beholders used to say the earth was flat...and that was their truth and for a long time, folks believed it...they also believed the earth was the center of the universe and even perceived it as such...but it was not true.

So...no...I don't accept NAB's points...not at all...

When I get in the mood...maybe I will just take on the genocide thing...I mean help me Mo..Nizo...please genocide? Gaza was genocide...I thought the Arab argument is Israel's disproportionate power and all the American weapons and how mighty they are against little stone throws...and with nukes, and tanks, and lasers, and poison gas and all that stuff at her disposal...the best genoicide they could pull off is maybe kill a couple thousand in one month?

This really just drives Liza up a wall...it depresses her to think intelligent people cannot see something a least a bit askew in that equation...

But then Liza is an optimist by heart...so allow me to sing to you NAB:

What good is sitting
Alone in your room?
Come hear the music plaaaaaayaaa

Life is a cabaret old chum
Come to the cabareeeettt.

Howie said...

Mo...

Even Liza knows you fucking Arabs fuck up falafel with the damn green shit you put in it or freaking onions.

This is why Liza and the Jews hate the Arabs...this is why we will never have beace.

So don't tell me about your frekin disgusting green falafel...next thing you know...this SOB will be bragging about their damn humos...as if it were their invention or something..."oh...the Jews stole our humos" boo-hoo.

Arab bastards...Liza says it...green falafel cooking Arab bastards!!

Mo-ha-med said...

FYI - green falafels (made of beans) are several leagues above the chickpea based falafels. As such, the Palestinian, Israeli, and Lebanese falafels are camel crap compared to the Egyptian falafels.
Second, Palestinians do better falafel than the Israelis. Pfff.
And third, you stole falafel. And hummus. And probably gefilte fish as well, from the times before the Exodus.

Fourth - you lost me at some point. So is one dead baby the same as another or is it 'utterly and completely untrue'?
Anyhow, my first point - that would be the one labeled 'first' in my previous message - said that 'innocents die'. That was a pretty unqualified and very general sentence. I don't think we disagree here.

However, something like, what is terrorism and what is not - we're unlikely to agree on that, because, yes, your truth and mine differ. More precisely, my definition and yours differ. And of course I think that you're wrong - but I also know you believe the opposite.
C'est la vie.

Howie said...

Mo...

Damn right we disagree...

Gefilte fish is clearly an Arab/Nazi/Inquisitor invention...designed to poison already starving Jews with its filthy odor, pallid appearance, and blood vessel bursting overloads of salt. Even the putrid green Egyptian falafel is more edible...

Maybe we are prone to genocide, racism, control of world banks and hairy ears, but don't even try to pin Gefilte fish on us...that even below an Arab.

Right Liza?

Nobody said...

Nizo said...

Furthermore, all the presumably Anonymice seem to be coming from locations in Israel..


That one who wrote about Nintendo pilots is from the US. And the cursing one is your neighbor.

Anonymous said...

Nizo ili maftooha teezo,

Tell me, does your family know your a manyak? When did you become a manyak? And did you ever try to get help?

Anonymous said...

what does living in the US have anything to do with the zionist babbykillers? You think all Americans are stupid? Sorry pal, I dont live on the redneck riviera and AIPAC's bullshit doesnt work with me. Americans are waking up to your propaganda and we Arabs here are going to help them and expose you. Like I said before, get out of Palestine and take this faggot with you.

Lisa Goldman said...

Anonymous April 6, 2009, 1:34 a.m.:

Just to clarify - are you upset with Nizo because he has sex with men, or because you disagree with his political views?

Anonymous said...

Nobody, you're obviously unable to debate anything without insulting your adversaries. This makes it harder for you to get your point across. So, in future, when you're going to discuss with someone that has a different opinion than yourself: try and be less insulting. Not for any moral reasons but simply ecause you;d have a better chance of them hearing you out.


Karen, why is Noam Chomsky a traitor? He's an american that often critize american politics, but there's many americans doing that. Or have I missed something? Has he sold secrets to al-Qaida or something like that?

Helen

Marian - CZ said...

Hmmm. This thread made me thinking about the whole problem from the following point of view.

Angry Arab commentators dwell on blood of the dead children. Well, this is not something to forget. If someone killed my child, I would be crazy and angry too.

On the other hand, dead are dead. What about the blood of the living children? By fighting on against a much stronger enemy, more living children will be killed. Already the old Greeks lamented war as the moment when fathers bury their young sons.

At the end of the day, it seems that the choice is whether you value the blood of the dead children more, or the blood of the living children more.

From the sociological point of view, societies tend to be more violent and belligerent when they have a lot of young man. Germany, Japan or Ireland precisely copied this path: from young, warlike societies, to greying and peaceful societies. Now, given the natality rate in Gaza, WB and Israel, I can see no peace in our time...

Ferenjito said...

-Marian

If we germans weren't so keen users of contraception, maybe we would still long for Lebensraum in the East...
Or at least teaching our children about our blood-and-soil relation to Silesia and the Sudety accompanied by recurrent qassam strikes on Cheb and Karlovy Vary, instead of flowing Prague's tourist shops and the numerous brothels at the border area...

Abu Sa'ar said...

"why is Noam Chomsky a traitor"

Directly aiding and abetting a number of organizations that declared USA as their enemy.

Working consistently, premeditatedly and rigorously against the interests of USA.

Supporting the enemies of USA regardless of who they are, what they do or what they stand for.

Once you shook hands with and declared your support for a man whose stated purpose is the genocide of your people and destruction of your people's state;

A man whose most sincere hope is the destruction of your state and who gladly boasts of the the blood of your countrymen on his hands...

Walla, you're not just a traitor, you're a kapo. The fact that this is a fashion in the academia since before WWII is no excuse. Kul kalb biji yomo.

Sophia said...

Nizo,

The response to my comment about Gaza illustrates to me (and you?) the futility of discussing anything rational with certain people. I thought it was obvious I wasn't comparing the attacks themselves, the scale, etc., but one's personal reactions to death and suffering of The Other Side. (Not that I think Gaza was genocide, but I AM NOT GOING THERE. Not my point.)

Also, I could take more seriously what he says if it did not rather obviously exclude the fact that most suicide bombings carried on by Muslims kill other Muslims. As is happening right now, this very minute, in Pakistan and Iraq. What the hell does this have to do with legitimate opposition to oppression? Fucking nothing. It's sheer nihilism.

Aviv said...

"Angry Arab commentators dwell on blood of the dead children. Well, this is not something to forget. If someone killed my child, I would be crazy and angry too."

Israeli children died too, and we get crazy and angry about it, but we do not develop a culture of death. We have different cultures and so we respond differently.

Difference: Honor-shame vs. Western morality.

As Nizo articulated so well, I doubt what fuels Arab hatred is the actual loss of life insomuch as the dishonor of defeat. In honor-shame society, honor is redeemed by bloodshed.

I believe that anthropological factor makes the conflict perpetuate, and Palestinians suffer, much more than demographics or sociology.

It also explains the motivations of this thread's anonymice; Anonymice think Nizo's sexual orientation and politics put the entire Arab nation to shame, while Chomsky is simply shunned by other Jews without the big fuss.

Aviv said...

...So in a sense Nizo describes his struggle to accommodate both the old values of honor-shame he was brought up on, and the Western logic that he agrees with on a rational level. Honor-shame brings you to revel in one's adversaries' death, while Western morality allows you to express yourself politically, sexually and however you like.

By analogy - "I cannot completely detach myself from my Melkite faith and declare that there's no God... I cannot reach a point of denying the existence of God, for many reasons mostly being nostalgia, emotions, upbringing."

Anonymous said...

I couldnt care less about Nizo taking a dick up his teezo, but he is a sick fuck.

All i read on this blog is pure anti-Arab, anti-Muslim racism. Nothing new, just the same tired and boring western cliches about the violence of islam and the honor obsessed arab culture. Nothing but bullshit.

The conflict is about the ehtnic cleansing of Palestine and the establishment of Israel. When israel is erased from the map and the palestinian refugees go home then the conflict will end and arabs and jews can live together as they did before zionism.

in the meantime nizo is a traitor and it seems the only reason he is a traitor is because there is an area in occupied Tel Aviv in the usurping zionist entity that allows him to be an open faggot which is something that is not accepted openly in arab society. Faggots exist everywhere of course, but in Arab society it is not practiced openly. not even normal heterosexuality is openly expressed. Its part of the private realm.

So no i dont care about this little manyak, but i do care about the eradication of zionism and the liberation of palestine, and he seems to be willing to sell out palestine for the opportunity to take a dick up his ass.

im done with this stupid blog. I should have never found it. I will definitely contact the palestinian directory to get this trash removed and i urge the others to do so

anne said...

anonyMOUSE, you seem to be more obsessed with dicks up asses than ol' Nizo here :)

Anonymous said...

Aviv, I'm sure the "dishonor of defeat" is an answer to the anger, especially re those arabs that aren't palestinians. However, those that do live in the territories is probably also very angry about the fact that they are occupied.
Helen

Anonymous said...

Anonymus,If you mean what do say, (you sound almost like a parody) you're crazy. If you don't like this blog, stop reading it but don't try and stop it. If you don't like his views why not simply discuss it a calm manner? Besides, does it really matter what he thinks? Do you think Nizo's blog is aiding the occupation or something? Calm down. :)
Helen

Mo-ha-med said...

There is a repetitive self-congratulating chorus of moral superiority I am reading here and elsewhere on the blog - Israelis = good western morality; Arabs = primitive 'culture of death', 'honour-shame', etc.
I hope this argument makes you feel better about yourselves. Reminding yourselves that you're inherently better is a good auto-pat on the back.

This is both ludicrously reductive, and inherently wrong.

Are you telling me that the Western culture - if there is indeed any such thing - has no place for honour? National honour and pride is at the basis of too many wars - and for their escalation, and continuation.

For a kidnapped Israeli, thousands upons thousands of Palestinians were killed over the past 3 years. His family, politicians, public opinion, publicly saluted, vowed to continue the killings and the blockade until the boy is freed.

Dozens of people are killed to quench a popular thirst for revenge after suicide bombings. Houses are blown up - houses where innocent people live, to make a 25-seconds segment on the evening news. To show the destruction to the angry Israeli viewer - "here. He killed people and he died with them, but we took revenge on his family, for you, dear angry viewer".

Look reality in the eyes for once. Israel is the master of the culture of revenge, death and demolition.
Aviv, et al., Open your pretty eyes a little, for fuck's sake.

Marian - your 'forget about the blood of dead children' argument is both naive and stupid - I addressed that argument here.

Howie said...

Mo...

Ah come on Mo...though you are usually wrong...this last comment is off in outer space...

Thousands of Palestinians were killed for Gilad Shalit? You are not ashamed of yourself to make a comment like that? And I was coming close to respecting you.

Many Palestinians soldiers, who often second as terrorits, were killed and many innocent civilians were also hurt in Gaza...but this had nothing to do with 7-8 years of Hamas bombardment of places like Sderot along with other successful and many failed terrorist attacks.

In terms of the West vs East...yes...overall I agree with the comment...since we pretty much have to write in generalities...yes...the Arabs have fucked up over and over and over and much of it had to do with hatred, honor and pride...which also exists in Israel, but to a lesser extent...It is not the driving force that sets basic political approaches...read the Hamas charter for starters.

The essential Palestinian platform has been based on violence and terrorism...or "resistence" as you would refer to it...very little has to do with compromise...

You see Mo...though I think you will again deny it, your stances are primarily based on relativism when in fact, there is something more good and more bad. Are good and innocent people often trapped between the higher powers...well of course that is true. And though my perspective of the Palestinian issue has changed somewhat over the past couple of years...overall I do fully reject your stance and yes...I think they are more wrong...far more wrong.

Howie said...

Mo


Think about it...you say thousands were killed because of Shalit....which I already disagreed with...but let's say you are correct...

Then again...it still makes the point, because Hamas could have given him up during the first hour of that war, gotten hundreds if not thousands of homies for him, STILL look liked tough guy saviors and THEY could have saved all those Palestinian lives...My take...honor was more important...so...I maintain my position.

Ferenjito said...

Mohammed,

Israelis = good western morality; Arabs = primitive 'culture of death', 'honour-shame', etc

When I as a "neutral observer" base my opinion about the moral asynchrony between Israelis and Arabs on the ordinary comments I read here in this blog, I come to a precise conclusion...

With yourself, your intellectual inegrity and placidity, of course, being a rare exceptional case.

Marian - CZ said...

Mo-ha-med: I read your article, and I understand your basic premise that lives are much more than money. Indeed they are.

But I also think that you did not really understand what I was trying to say. And that was, that, at some stage of the war, peace for the yet-alive is much more than remembrance of the dead. This is an awful arithmetics of skulls and bones. It does not make me happy to even think about it from distant safety.

The continent I am living in used to be a perpetual battleground for centuries. Whole nations were exterminated, either physically or culturally. In the last war, my family lost several people to the Germans. There are mass graves everywhere. In some places, you cannot dig foundations for a new supermarket without disturbing some bones + old ammonition.

However, we would be stupid to continue the fighting perpetually, motivated by the losses that we suffered. This has no end: each side has had tremendous losses. So, the general decision after 1945 was to remember the dead, and go on which some territorial and legal compromise to enable future life. And now we can meet with Ferenjito and have a beer instead of sniping at each other with high-powered rifles.

And that was done because we were able to suppress the most extremist elements on all sides. Those elements, whose craving for revenge is insatiable and will not stop at anything lesser than obliteration of the enemy. There are such people in every society - from Japan to India to Africa to Mexico - and they are a test of survival fitness of that society. Either the society develops mechanisms that cut them away from power, or it it invariably dragged by them into perpetual wars and suffering.

Snowden said...

I've been reading you for a long time, and your writing's always been excellent, and a joy to read. (I'm Israeli, by the way).

I agree with you in a way: I think Israel should be humbled. I think it (she?) acts arrogantly, and pray that some higher power (US? EU? UN?) will put it in its place.
However, I don't think firing rockets at civilians is any type of humbling; I think it's a straight out crime. It's also counter-productive, but that's beside the point. I was a kid in Tel Aviv at the time, and my experience of the exploding busses and cafés was one of horror, and I don't mean the fear of going on a bus, or out to a restaurant or mall. It's what I feel even today when I see these things: What kind of person does this? What kind of person fires rockets, with the intention of killing people he has never even met? What kind of person wants the death of innocents so much, he's willing to give his life for it? Is it hate? How can you hate someone, someone you've never even seen, this much?

I know I'm being naïve with these questions. I don't know, maybe in some other life, in some other world, I could be that person. But here, in this life, in this world, all I see is senseless, tragic, pointless deaths, caused by I don't even know what, pride and xenophobia, is all I can guess.

Thank you, Nizo, for writing so well, for having such a great community of commenters I enjoy (and thank you guys as well), and for finally pushing me to write back.

Marian - CZ said...

The best way how to humble your neighboring country is on a soccer stadium :-D

Pity that not everyone agrees.

Aviv said...

Mo,

Palestinian "honor-driven bloodthirst": Predates occupation. Targets civilians.

Israeli "honor-driven bloodthirst": Targets terrorists. Includes more humanitarian safeguards than were employed by any military in history. Was not meant to avenge Shalit's kidnapping but decrease rocket fire on a fair-and-square perfectly-within-the-green-line town. Is unleashed only after long periods of restraint, both in "Cast Lead" and 2002's "Defensive Shield". Is under constant internal criticism. Is not meant to avenge lost lives but prevent future loss of life, as a certain Mr. Zubeidi can tell you.

Comparing the two is like comparing a snake bite with medical malpractice.

Helen, I agree occupation can make people very angry by its own merit.

Nizo said...

"It's what I feel even today when I see these things: What kind of person does this? What kind of person fires rockets, with the intention of killing people he has never even met? What kind of person wants the death of innocents so much, he's willing to give his life for it? Is it hate? How can you hate someone, someone you've never even seen, this much?"

Snowden, I don't have the monopoly on the truth just my interpretations, with conflicts lasting as long as they do, the line between civilians and military gets blurred. In any case, you shouldn't be so shocked, more Arab civilians have been killed by their regimes than by Israel. You think the Arabs shed tears for the 20,000+ Syrian civilians killed in Hama when Assad hit the Islamists there?

A friend of mine, whose uncle perished in the massacre told me that she would gladly sacrifice all of her uncles if it means that the Islamists won't take over the country and force her to wear a Hijab.

This is the same with me and Saddam, in whose country homosexuality was not illegal, and where in some underground Baghdad cinemas you could get blow/hand jobs by swarthy men and probably even Baathist agents themselves. Now the Americans toppled him with the claim that he had committed human rights abuses, and so they opened up the country to the religious zealots who brought back a country that was a whole century behind to becoming 2 centuries behind. and for what? Give me Saddam and gay cinemas, and as for the quasi-emancipation of the Shiites and Kurds, I don't give me a shit or a turd.

To make a long story short, we're talking about a region of jaded people for whom their own civilians barely count, let alone the civilians of a country they're at conflict with. So don't take this missile thing too emotionally or personally.

Anyway, as I told an Israeli friend off-line, the more I discover my Croatian in-laws and their irreconcilable disdain for Serbs and the stories of rape of both men and women, it tells me that some conflicts are even more intense than ours, maybe there's hope!

Mo-ha-med said...

Howie - (and partially Aviv)
Don't be silly. In 3 years, yes, thousands of people have died because of direct strikes (last march/april, 140 people..) and because of the blockade, mainly for lack of health care.

The latest war on Gaza wasn't about Shalit, of course; but he was a good side argument and indeed, getting Noah Shalit on television saying he supports the blockade and the operation is a good way to galvanize the mob.

And, Aviv - you compare Israeli attacks to medical malpractice? I think they're rather on the ethical level of organ theft.

Marian - it's easy to talk about the 'awful arithmetics of skulls and bones' - when they don't concern you. In any event, I hope we won't have to go through a WW2-size conflict to reach a peaceful settlement. The WW2 comparison is anyway very difficult to make that I don't want to get into that.
This said, when you say
"that was done because we were able to suppress the most extremist elements on all sides. "
Hmm, no. It was done because you were able to sentence and execute the most extremist elements.

Aviv said...

Gilad's dad's name is Noam, and please explain how organ theft is a useful analogy.

Marian - CZ said...

Mo-ha-med: yes, people who comment on foreign wars usually lack the "gut understanding" of the real situation on the ground. However, I do not think that this renders their ideas worthless. So, please accept my comments as outsider's, but sincere.

As for the most extremist elements, there was a lot of judicial bloodshed at the end of WWII, but that is only part of the story: revenge on the killers. Nevertheless, the extremist elements do not consist of killers only, but also of ideologues and propagandists who prepare new generations of fighters. The fact that Federal Republic of Germany pushed these people out of the media and the classrooms was an important factor in the post-war reconciliation. At least as much as executions of the SS murderers.

Sophia said...

" some conflicts are even more intense than ours, maybe there's hope!"

There are certainly more bloody conflicts. Northern Ireland. There is no comparison as to the lethality of violence committed by the IRA to anything that the Palestinian extremist groups (all of them, including the good old PLO for which I am almost nostalgic....) The IRA was far more violent. They were expert marksmen, explosives makers, and carried out deadly attacks against Irish people who disagreed with them. If the PLO had had the military capability of the IRA, the story would be very different indeed. They rarely carried off a successful raid against Israeli soldiers. Actually I can't offhand think of one. As an Israeli officer put it, "Until the Intifada, we had an occupation de luxe."

So, Aviv, where does that leave your honor/shame dichotomy? Where do the Catholic Irish fit into this template?

Nobody said...

Well. This is nonsense. The IRA was absolutely no more violent than the Palestinian groups.

Mo-ha-med said...

Aviv - yes, Noam! I realised that after i had logged off.. As for the anology - a (bad) attempt to go on with your medical metaphor :) Point is, there was nothing of a 'malpractice' in the war on Gaza, attacks on civilians were blatantly deliberate.
As exposed by testimonies of Palestinian victims, humanitarian relief workers, and later press investigation, and the adorable t-shirts your army wears.

Howie said...

Mo...

Wrong again my friend...and I know people who were right there on the ground...

The Pals have always been absolute experts at manipulating the press. Once again...with all Israel's power, even by the Pals account maybe 2,000 or so casualities...So which is it please...a powerful, "asymmetrical" army, supported by the USA or are they really a bunch of dunces with really really BAD aim.

What was it...Zimbabwe managed to kill like 200,000 with machetes in a week...and with all her might...Israel could only pull of a couple thousand? If harming a bunch of civilians was there intent, they did a very poor job.

Oh...and how do you explain little Ahmed, age 10, in Bellison Hospital right next to my friend's daughter? Little Ahmed from Gaza...Oh...a publicity stunt...but a bad one since nobody ever hears or wants to hear those stories...

So Mo...what next...come on say it..."its genocide" by one of the most powerful armies in the world that would have killed millions, but really is a bad army that could only manage hundreds...though they tried really hard for millions...

And, of course, let's continue to not mention when the little black-hooded boys tended to hide and put their weapons...neighborboods, hospitals, mosques...

Yes...it is all a matter of point of view...just close your eyes to the painful facts and it all comes out looking like something palitable to the victims who have utterly no responsiblity for what befell them...All the terror and rockets, kidnappings, attempted kidnappings, threats, years and years and year of it...all that has nothing to do with their lot.

Right

Howie said...

Sophia and Mo

"They rarely carried off a successful raid against Israeli soldiers."

Great example of selective thinking and selective perception...I love it!!! I don't know what side you are on Sophia but have you ever considered that this is mostly true because nearly all attacks in Palestinian history have been directed at unarmed civilians with kids being a nice juicy favorite target. Those pieces of shit filth.

Man do I remember the attack on the ice cream joint in Petach Tikvah. You could see the place from my family's apartment. My niece had just gone by there with her baby when a brave warrior blew up a bunch of kids...

Yes Mo...there is a difference between what is and is not terrorism...

Ah...I am wasting my time again...Silly me.

Nizo said...

"As an Israeli officer put it, "Until the Intifada, we had an occupation de luxe.""


Which is why I always supported the first intifada via my olive oil consumption. The West Bankers were relatively docile from 67 till the late 80's..

Iraqi Mojo said...

It is so fucking disgusting how some Arabs love Saddam. DISGUSTING

Iraqi Mojo said...

'"A woman known as Um Haydar was beheaded reportedly without charge or trial at the end of December 2000. She was 25 years' old and married with three children. Her husband was sought by the security authorities reportedly because of his involvement in Islamist armed activities against the state. He managed to flee the country. Men belonging to Feda'iyye Saddam came to the house in al-Karrada district and found his wife, children and his mother. Um Haydar was taken to the street and two men held her by the arms and a third pulled her head from behind and beheaded her in front of the residents. The beheading was also witnessed by members of the Ba'ath Party in the area. The security men took the body and the head in a plastic bag, and took away the children and the mother-in-law. The body of Um Haydar was later buried in al-Najaf. The fate of the children and the mother-in-law remains unknown." '

Aviv said...

So, Aviv, where does that leave your honor/shame dichotomy? Where do the Catholic Irish fit into this template?

Did they consistently oppose any peace offer to maintain honor? I don't think so. Anyway, honor/shame logic may have been a factor there too, I can't rule it out yet.

I must admit I don't know much about Irish or Basque terrorism, but Palestinians meet all the criteria you named (expert marksmen, internal terrorism etc).

Re: Int'l press & T-shirts, Howie is correct in invoking Pallywood - Hamas and Hizbullah run their own media shows, and the int'l media is only too happy to oblige. By the time the truth comes out, it's no longer interesting. While the t-shirts are distasteful to say the least, they don't reflect the IDF's real modus operandi or its values. It really is just a retarded joke.

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Nizo said...

Iraqi Mojo,
re-read this part carefully:

"The astute observer of our region is quick to deduce that in the Missile East, certain leaders tend to enjoy more popularity among the people of neighbouring states than in their own, for the simple reason that the neighbours get the rhetoric minus the khara. Think of the Arab masses' excitement at Ahmadinejad's anti-Israeli shrieks, or more relevantly to my own life, the Palestinian euphoria when Saddam's scuds hit Tel Aviv in 1991."


So I acknowledge that your leader was a piece of shit, especially to you. By the way, stories about Baath atrocities fail to impress me because they're hardly original in our region. The Phalangists, PLO, Syrian Baath, Hamas, Saudi King and practically everyone else in the neighbourhood has committed something equally if not more disgusting.

Anyway, yes, support of Saddam was stupid, so please forgive me. Your Iraqi nation deserves much more than Saddam, after he perished we saw the democracy and human rights that you rushed to institute. We saw your potential for enlightenment. Surely had the Americans not come and "liberated" you, you were on the cusp of replacing Saddam with something similar to what they have in Switzerland. Dakheel Allah.


Don't waste my time here with stories about Um-Haydar or Um-Batata.. You have no right to judge the Palestinians because you're no better, you remain a nation like the rest of us that has to be ruled by the Kundara (shoe). Once one of us evolves past this we'll send the other a memo Ok?

Iraqi Mojo said...

Yes Iraq is a fucked up country, even without the murderous Ba3thi bitches. It is possible that Iraqis will never reconcile, and there may not be peace for decades. But it's nice to see the Ba3thi bitches on the run, after so many years of ruin and despair. It may be slow and rare, but progress is being made in Iraq.

Ellie said...

I think this is the only Iraqi-American who still supports the American "liberation" of Iraq! Except for the Iraqi-American Jews, but they don't count because they're Jews.

Iraqi Mojo said...

Some people are so fucking stupid.


"End of the tryant"

"New Iraq Emerges from Tyranny and War"

"RIP James Brown, and good riddance Saddam…"

"Meanwhile, in Iraq, some (though not all) people are volunteering to put the noose around Saddam's neck themselves."

"How about the fact that you can now openly insult any of Iraq's leaders (with the exception of Moqtada maybe) without having your tongue cut off!? Or seeing your wife raped infront of you and your baby having his head smashed against the wall while you watch his brains spill on the floor!? How about the fact that men are no longer being thrown feet first into giant mince meat machines only so that the sick people watching can hear them scream untill they die!?"


"The only thing that America is guilty of is that of underestimating the viciousness of the enemy, and not so much his military capability; because the enemy’s weapon is not so much military prowess, but evil and viciousness."

Nobody said...

Iraqi Mojo

You should really calm down. This is a no leftist Bush lie people die blog. This post was a one time exception because Nizo was in a particular bad mood that day and decided to piss of his (very committed) right wing Israeli readership. On any other day this blog is nothing like this. People here are not hostile to you. You are simply hallucinating.

Nobody said...

Try this to calm down

Howie said...

Whacky Iraqi...

Here...take a gift from a Jew:

http://tuningbaghdad.net/#about

Also...I am married to an Iraqi so...may I ask you a very personal question?

Do you where pajamas and house slippers during evenings and mornings?

Please...I would like to know. It would mean a lot to me...

And do you enjoy sambusak betawah with gigi mekhasha? aim shuwayeh bevenjan mukli weh ambah?

Just curious...

Howie said...

Whacky Iraqi...

Another question...are you Asyrian/Chaldean by any chance...the ones I have met hate Saddam and Arabs in general far more than Jews or even Persians?

Just curious...

And dude...we tend to be a little sarcastic here...

Read for awhile...b'daluk...just chill and watch...between the silliness...we actually tend to be a very sincere group of screwballs...

I Saddam have spoken

Ellie said...

Check this out Iraqi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyt8JqH5NJM

Howie said...

Nizo...

And yes Nizo...an Asyrian is one of the Arab strays I have picked up along the way...we had lunch together at his church about 3 months ago...he was not terribly supportive of his Arab brothers though...far harsher than the Israelis in the group...could not figure why we never nuked Iraq...his home country...he was pretty downright pissed off about it.

Nobody said...

Ellie

Why did he say that the way Saddam executed the uncle of his children proves Saddam was a brave man? Do you know something about this story? Or something is wrong with Memri's translation?

Nobody said...

Ah sorry

I got it

Nobody said...

This man got so enthusiastic listing his many relatives Saddam had put to death that I thought there is a catch here or something.

Nobody said...

I checked the site of one of the commenters there and found this clip. Nice graphics. This is what will happen when we ran out of Gharkad trees. Beware Jews. Start planting now. Yallah to the gardens.

Nizo said...

Ya Allah, what is scary video, what do you think will happen to us gays on Muslim judgement day?

Judging from all the flames, I think I'll be packing my sunscreen.

Nizo said...

Howie,
Never call an Assyrian an Arab.. they don't like it one bit.. They look down on everyone, even us Christian Arabs..

Nobody said...

Nizo said...
Ya Allah, what is scary video, what do you think will happen to us gays on Muslim judgement day?

Judging from all the flames, I think I'll be packing my sunscreen.


You will pay dearly for all the shit you have done in your life starting with your hours long masturbation sessions when you were a child. Your hands will be the first to be burned down by the flames of justice. Frankly, given your unhealthy lifestyle, rejoicing at Tel Aviv being hit by Saddam's scuds is probably the only thing you will be able to claim to your credit on that day.

Nizo said...

But they say Allah is merciful, surely he'll forgive me for all these trespasses.

ah.. but he's also cunning.. maybe he'll send me to heaven and put me in a room with 72 (female) virgins..

Nobody said...

I think that by now male virgins outnumber female ones by a wide margin. Look man you have almost daily suicide attacks today. If not in Iraq, then in Pakistan. You should not worry about this.

On a different note, have you noticed how this man was listing in a matter of fact voice his brother and relatives executed by the great leader? This man is a fucking psycho. It's a shame they did not invite Aviv to participate in their debate. They would have been dumbstruck if Aviv would have accompanied their interview with his shame and honor analyses. Truly a shame.

Nizo said...

"On a different note, have you noticed how this man was listing in a matter of fact voice his brother and relatives executed by the great leader? This man is a fucking psycho. It's a shame they did not invite Aviv to participate in their debate. They would have been dumbstruck if Aviv would have accompanied their interview with his shame and honor analyses. Truly a shame."


People get desensitised. We don't sanctify life, let's admit it, why do we fool ourselves? Or if we do it's selective. When the Gazans are killed by the F-16s people start jumping in the streets like monkeys on an acid trip. But their own regimes have killed and continue to kill thousands and more but no one says a thing..

Wallah I've reached a point that I will only mourn if a hairy redhead is killed, as for the rest of humanity it can go to hell. I will not nurse anyone's wounds either.

Khalas, I did my part for society.

Nizo said...

You know ya Nobody, people don't understand the Missile East.. The Arabs licked Saddam's balls in gratitude when he fought Ayatollah's Iran and now that he's gone they will (secretly) rejoice if Israel hits Iran's nuclear facility. The Sunni-Shia divide is the thing now, you my Israeli friend and your country are a sideshow, and me, what am I, I'm less than insignificant in these things.

I told Iraqi Mojo that I wished him all the best and if you read his blog he's celebrating the fact that the shoe-thrower didn't have his tongue cut off as progress, and it is progress. But if anyone thinks that the story in Iraq is over, they're mistaken. There's "Taar", I don't know the exact translation into English, between the Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds.

Ya'ni ya 7abibi ya Nobody, if the Lebanese, who are the hope of the region in their relatively progressive orientation killed each other for many years and Allah knows when they will massacre each other next, how do you think the Iraqis will do it?

This is an Iraq left with the lowest strata of society, their elite, once the most prosperous and educated in the Missile East are all living in London, Paris, and other Western nations. They're left with the goats, not the nice classy show goats, but the low inbred goats.

Wallah I wish them well, but I have no hope.

Nobody said...

Well. I am generally skeptical about this part of the world. In fact, for us the mess is only starting. This is how I see it. Unless the dictators manage some kind of peaceful transition to normality, the style of Franco in Spain. Maybe Tunisians will do it. But otherwise I see a lot of mess ahead of us and I am not that triumphant about Israel by the way. For Israelis it would be enough to do just a couple of mistakes and they will be wiped off the face of the earth. As Ben Gurion once noticed: Israel will lose only one war.

Iraqi Mojo said...

I am Shi3i. I've posted that clip of the piece of shit Mish3an Jabouri on my blog twice.

Nizo said...

Iraqi Mojo, I extend an olive branch to you, I don't want to hurt your feelings. We're both minorities and we need to care for each other. Please accept the branch and I will add to it a hug.

Nobody said...

Iraqi Mojo

I am joining Nizo and offering you a branch of a Gharkad tree, the king of our national vegetation. I will put aside the headache your Lebanese brothers are causing us hoping for a future alliance of all Middle Eastern minorities (I am counting us among them)

Nobody said...

Let us not forget. Despite all this anti US anti West blah blah blah, the true imperialists and colonialists in this region have been always the Turks, Persians and Sunni Arabs. Minorities of the Middle East, unite !!!

:D :D

Iraqi Mojo said...

Thank you Nizo and Nobody. I hope that we can all live peacefully together.

Nizo said...

You know Nobody, for some reason, all the gasps at my post didn't count but Mojo's did. He reminded me of Al-Ghaliboon, who by the way has yet to be matched in his wit and eloquence.

I curse you for killing his brother.

Howie said...

Mojo...

Seriously dude...welcome.

You are an honored guest...who knows we could even be related...

And yes...I rank Saddam right up there with Stalin, Hitler, Quasimodo, and the San Francisco Giants...you know...towards the top of my hate list.

So..would be interested to here your thoughts...

Now...again...about those pajamas?

hehehehe Iraqi pajama

hehehehe Monkeys on acid

Howie said...

Mojo...

Dude...thank me too. I could been married to a relative of yours...

And I always argue that Iraqi food is at the top of my list and my father-in-law gave me two pairs of pajama AND house slippers...

Iraqi Mojo said...

Thanks Howie. Maybe I prejudged Nizo and his fans. That video Saddam our murderous father made me kinda sick. I've seen too many Palestinians praising the late dictator and I'd like to see it stop.

Nizo said...

By the way Mojo, in your honour I will remove the video and words. The post however I will keep because I don't intend to turn back time. Saddam was merely vehicle with which I attempted to ram into the Yahud.

You honour me in being one of the few who has attacked something relevant to you, rather than my sexuality.

Nobody said...

Nizo has left a new comment on the post "Thank You Saddam, for Hitting Tel Aviv":

You know Nobody, for some reason, all the gasps at my post didn't count but Mojo's did. He reminded me of Al-Ghaliboon, who by the way has yet to be matched in his wit and eloquence.


I am telling you and you can write my words down: There will be a day when the Lebanese Shias will rejoice to have us guarding their back. This artificial Nasrallah's pan Arab pan Muslim solidarity will not last forever.

Iraqi Mojo said...

Thanks Nizo, but don't take it down just for my sake. Saddam did some good things for Iraq, but he and his Tikriti friends and relatives just killed way too many innocent Iraqis.

Some of my best friends have been gay, and I realize that gay Iraqis have not exactly been liberated.

Nobody said...

By the way

I am not sure AG was very witty. But I agree he had a style, he was an eloquent and refined person.

Nobody said...

By the way Iraqi Mojo

I am a big fan of IraqPundit. I was even emulating his style for a while. He has me in his links

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